Smart home devices should work without the internet(docodethatmatters.com)
1133 points by skittleson 1 day ago | 425 comments
tl;dr: A homeowner shares a decade of rules for building a smart home that doesn't depend on vendor clouds: core functions (lights, locks, temperature) must work with the internet unplugged, old manual controls stay in place, and devices communicate locally via MQTT with Tasmota on ESP boards and Node-RED on a Raspberry Pi. The post compiles two talks plus reader feedback about absurd internet dependencies (fridges needing apps, TVs that won't switch inputs offline, a meat thermometer bricked when its company folded) and practical fixes like Zigbee/Z-Wave, Tailscale, and open-source firmware replacements.
HN Discussion:
  • ↑Shares personal success stories of running local-only smart home setups with legacy or DIY systems
  • ↑Advocates even stricter rules requiring devices to work without any network or server at all
  • ↑Recommends specific tools and protocols like Home Assistant, Zigbee/Z-Wave, and open-source firmware replacements
  • ~Notes the barrier to entry is high but worth it once you start experimenting with local automation
  • ↑Hopes consumer demand and a catchy movement name could push the industry toward local-first design