Ripple-65B Preview: U.S. Open-Weight SOTA on Agentic Coding(ricursive.com)
334 points by Philpax 7 days ago | 122 comments
tl;dr: Ripple-65B Preview, a US open-weight model, hit 80.5 on TerminalBench 2.1 for agentic coding using only 1.4M RL rollouts—roughly 70x fewer than the prior SOTA (Reflection Beam). The team skipped brute-force RL scaling and purchased post-training data, instead building their own synthetic data pipelines and a mixed RL recipe featuring truncated importance sampling, score centering, and linear length penalty on long-horizon synthetic environments, with task difficulty scaled progressively as the model improved.
HN Discussion:
  • ↓SOTA claim is diluted by narrow category qualifiers like US-made, open-weight, size class
  • ↓Model is impractical for hobbyists due to 65B dense architecture being slow on consumer hardware
  • ↓Article omits comparisons to competing open models like Qwen, suggesting benchmark cherry-picking
  • ↑US jurisdiction restrictions make this differentiation genuinely relevant for some users
  • ↓Real-world testing shows poor tool-calling reliability, undermining the benchmark claims