Using LLM for confidence scoring is a bad idea(rumple.github.io)
223 points by jimauthors 4 days ago | 102 comments
tl;dr: LLMs generate confidence scores as plausible text continuations, not as measurements of evidence or calibrated probabilities—so the numbers shift with rewording, vary between runs, and have never been scored against actual correctness. A trustworthy confidence score requires both grounding in observable information and calibration against recorded outcomes. The author suggests building an external rule that derives confidence from measurable signals (e.g., search hits, answer consistency, historical accuracy) and continuously checking it against reviewed results, rather than asking the model how sure it is.
HN Discussion:
  • ~LLMs can produce useful confidence scores if you decompose the problem into dimensions rather than asking for 0-100 scale
  • ↓LLMs can be trained or fine-tuned for proper calibration, countering the article's claim they're never scored on correctness
  • ~Confidence scoring works fine with proper context, grading rubrics, or validation mechanisms
  • ↓The article lacks empirical data to support its claim that LLM confidence scores are bad
  • ↑LLMs are fundamentally token predictors, so skepticism about their self-reported confidence is warranted