Born Against, or why hobby programming communities are against LLM usage(blog.fogus.me)
311 points by lladnar 19 hours ago | 338 comments
tl;dr: Hobby programming communities (OSDev, LangDev, chess engines, demoscene, etc.) tend to reject LLM usage because the point of these pursuits is mastering difficult domains—the process is the product, not the working artifact. Respect in these circles is earned slowly through demonstrated understanding and elegant code, so LLM-generated output is viewed as cheating or missing the point. The author argues LLMs work best as a force multiplier for existing experts, but in learning-focused niches they simply "rob us of the craft."
HN Discussion:
  • Hobbies are about enjoying the process, so LLMs naturally undermine the point like doping in sports
  • Programming's joy comes from gradual skill-building and understanding, which vibe coding destroys
  • Article misses context: the real issue was code laundering and license violations, not hobbyist purism
  • ~AI has degraded community engagement and flooded niches with low-quality noise, beyond mere gatekeeping
  • ~LLM rejection in niches like OSdev is understandable but complicated by legitimate needs like undocumented hardware